袭击事件加剧保释改革的争论2

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But data from the New York city criminal justice agency shows that since bail reform started in 2020, the numbers haven't changed much.

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但纽约市刑事司法机构的数据显示，自2020年开始保释改革以来，数字没有太大变化。

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The vast majority more than 95 percent of people arrested have not been arrested again, and less than one percent commit violent crimes.

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绝大多数，超过95%的被逮捕者没有再次被捕，只有不到1%的人犯下了暴力犯罪。

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And advocates argue that crime has gone up in cities that have not instituted reforms just like those that have, but New Yorkers say something needs to change.

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倡议者认为，那些没有进行改革的城市的犯罪率有所上升，但纽约人表示，有些事情需要改变。

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It kind of makes you think that you got to always be watching your back, no matter where you go. - In Seattle, a similar story with murder playing out in broad daylight and on surveillance video.

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这让你觉得无论你去哪里，你都得时刻提防着自己。 - 在西雅图，类似的谋杀事件在光天化日之下上演，监控录像也在播放。

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You can see 48 year old Aaron Fulk swinging a metal bar at a 66 year old man, that victim dying from his injuries over the weekend.

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你可以看到48岁的亚伦·福尔克挥舞着金属棒袭击一名66岁的男子，这名受害者在周末因伤势过重死亡。

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He's now charged with first degree murder and is being held on a 2.5 million dollar bail, he pleaded not guilty, but just eight days before the attack, Folk was charged with felony harassment in another county.

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他现在被控一级谋杀，需要250万美元的保释金，他不认罪，但就在袭击发生的8天前，福尔克在另一个县被控犯有骚扰重罪。

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For allegedly threatening to kill a public transit safety officer where he also pleaded not guilty, prosecutors wanted to hold Fulk on a 10 thousand dollar bond.

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福尔克被控威胁要杀死一名公共交通安全官员，但他也不认罪，检察官希望以1万美元的保释金拘留他。

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But he was released with a referral for services, according to a spokesperson for the prosecuting attorney's office, violent crime in seattle is up this year rising above records from the past 14 years.

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但根据检察官办公室发言人的说法，他是在转交服务后被释放的，西雅图的暴力犯罪今年有所上升，超过了过去14年的记录。

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According to Seattle PD, some say these are the kinds of red flags that should not be left unchecked.

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据西雅图警局报道，一些人说这些都是不应该被忽视的危险信号。

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When we're talking about violent repeat felons, and there are times where people are out on eight felony aggravated robbery bonds, and they get another one, and that's ridiculous, and it shouldn't be happening.

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当我们谈论暴力惯犯的时候，有些时候，一个人被判了8次严重抢劫重罪，然后又被判了一次，这太荒谬了，不应该发生这种事。

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All right Steven Romo joins us now live in studio, so Steven of course there is a racial component to this debate, what are both sides saying?

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好的，史蒂文·罗莫现在加入我们的演播室直播，史蒂文，当然这场辩论中有种族因素，双方都说了什么?

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Well critics of bail reform say that black and brown people are far too often the victims of these crimes, that are perpetrated by repeat offenders, saying the concern should be on them and not on the accused.

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保释改革的批评者说，黑人和棕色人种经常是这些罪行的受害者，这些罪行都是惯犯犯下的，他们说应该关注他们，而不是被告。

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But advocates of changing bail systems say there are disparities in bond amounts, compared to income, and charges for people of color, and something needs to be done to make the system more just.

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但主张改变保释制度的人士表示，与收入相比，保释金额存在差异，对有色人种的收费也存在差异，需要采取措施使保释制度更加公正。

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They do point to cities like Houston Texas saying there's been success for bail reform for misdemeanor fences in that city.

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他们指出，德克萨斯州休斯顿等城市表示，该市对轻罪非法交易的保释改革取得了成功。

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But tom I got to tell you there's still so much debate on this issue in Houston even with that success. - It just feels like it's everything everyone is talking about in New York city, all right Steven Romo, first, steven, thank you.

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但是汤姆，我得告诉你，在休斯顿，即使取得了这样的成功，关于这个问题仍然有很多争论。 - 只是感觉这是纽约所有人都在谈论的事情，好吧，史蒂文，首先，史蒂文，谢谢你。

1

但纽约市刑事司法机构的数据显示，自2020年开始保释改革以来，数字没有太大变化。

显示原文▼

But data from the New York city criminal justice agency shows that since bail reform started in 2020, the numbers haven't changed much.

2

绝大多数，超过95%的被逮捕者没有再次被捕，只有不到1%的人犯下了暴力犯罪。

显示原文▼

The vast majority more than 95 percent of people arrested have not been arrested again, and less than one percent commit violent crimes.

3

倡议者认为，那些没有进行改革的城市的犯罪率有所上升，但纽约人表示，有些事情需要改变。

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And advocates argue that crime has gone up in cities that have not instituted reforms just like those that have, but New Yorkers say something needs to change.

4

这让你觉得无论你去哪里，你都得时刻提防着自己。 - 在西雅图，类似的谋杀事件在光天化日之下上演，监控录像也在播放。

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It kind of makes you think that you got to always be watching your back, no matter where you go. - In Seattle, a similar story with murder playing out in broad daylight and on surveillance video.

5

你可以看到48岁的亚伦·福尔克挥舞着金属棒袭击一名66岁的男子，这名受害者在周末因伤势过重死亡。

显示原文▼

You can see 48 year old Aaron Fulk swinging a metal bar at a 66 year old man, that victim dying from his injuries over the weekend.

6

他现在被控一级谋杀，需要250万美元的保释金，他不认罪，但就在袭击发生的8天前，福尔克在另一个县被控犯有骚扰重罪。

显示原文▼

He's now charged with first degree murder and is being held on a 2.5 million dollar bail, he pleaded not guilty, but just eight days before the attack, Folk was charged with felony harassment in another county.

7

福尔克被控威胁要杀死一名公共交通安全官员，但他也不认罪，检察官希望以1万美元的保释金拘留他。

显示原文▼

For allegedly threatening to kill a public transit safety officer where he also pleaded not guilty, prosecutors wanted to hold Fulk on a 10 thousand dollar bond.

8

但根据检察官办公室发言人的说法，他是在转交服务后被释放的，西雅图的暴力犯罪今年有所上升，超过了过去14年的记录。

显示原文▼

But he was released with a referral for services, according to a spokesperson for the prosecuting attorney's office, violent crime in seattle is up this year rising above records from the past 14 years.

9

据西雅图警局报道，一些人说这些都是不应该被忽视的危险信号。

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According to Seattle PD, some say these are the kinds of red flags that should not be left unchecked.

10

当我们谈论暴力惯犯的时候，有些时候，一个人被判了8次严重抢劫重罪，然后又被判了一次，这太荒谬了，不应该发生这种事。

显示原文▼

When we're talking about violent repeat felons, and there are times where people are out on eight felony aggravated robbery bonds, and they get another one, and that's ridiculous, and it shouldn't be happening.

11

好的，史蒂文·罗莫现在加入我们的演播室直播，史蒂文，当然这场辩论中有种族因素，双方都说了什么?

显示原文▼

All right Steven Romo joins us now live in studio, so Steven of course there is a racial component to this debate, what are both sides saying?

12

保释改革的批评者说，黑人和棕色人种经常是这些罪行的受害者，这些罪行都是惯犯犯下的，他们说应该关注他们，而不是被告。

显示原文▼

Well critics of bail reform say that black and brown people are far too often the victims of these crimes, that are perpetrated by repeat offenders, saying the concern should be on them and not on the accused.

13

但主张改变保释制度的人士表示，与收入相比，保释金额存在差异，对有色人种的收费也存在差异，需要采取措施使保释制度更加公正。

显示原文▼

But advocates of changing bail systems say there are disparities in bond amounts, compared to income, and charges for people of color, and something needs to be done to make the system more just.

14

他们指出，德克萨斯州休斯顿等城市表示，该市对轻罪非法交易的保释改革取得了成功。

显示原文▼

They do point to cities like Houston Texas saying there's been success for bail reform for misdemeanor fences in that city.

15

但是汤姆，我得告诉你，在休斯顿，即使取得了这样的成功，关于这个问题仍然有很多争论。 - 只是感觉这是纽约所有人都在谈论的事情，好吧，史蒂文，首先，史蒂文，谢谢你。

显示原文▼

But tom I got to tell you there's still so much debate on this issue in Houston even with that success. - It just feels like it's everything everyone is talking about in New York city, all right Steven Romo, first, steven, thank you.

1

But data from the New York city criminal justice agency shows that since bail reform started in 2020, the numbers haven't changed much.
2

The vast majority more than 95 percent of people arrested have not been arrested again, and less than one percent commit violent crimes.
3

And advocates argue that crime has gone up in cities that have not instituted reforms just like those that have, but New Yorkers say something needs to change.
4

It kind of makes you think that you got to always be watching your back, no matter where you go. - In Seattle, a similar story with murder playing out in broad daylight and on surveillance video.
5

You can see 48 year old Aaron Fulk swinging a metal bar at a 66 year old man, that victim dying from his injuries over the weekend.
6

He's now charged with first degree murder and is being held on a 2.5 million dollar bail, he pleaded not guilty, but just eight days before the attack, Folk was charged with felony harassment in another county.
7

For allegedly threatening to kill a public transit safety officer where he also pleaded not guilty, prosecutors wanted to hold Fulk on a 10 thousand dollar bond.
8

But he was released with a referral for services, according to a spokesperson for the prosecuting attorney's office, violent crime in seattle is up this year rising above records from the past 14 years.
9

According to Seattle PD, some say these are the kinds of red flags that should not be left unchecked.
10

When we're talking about violent repeat felons, and there are times where people are out on eight felony aggravated robbery bonds, and they get another one, and that's ridiculous, and it shouldn't be happening.
11

All right Steven Romo joins us now live in studio, so Steven of course there is a racial component to this debate, what are both sides saying?
12

Well critics of bail reform say that black and brown people are far too often the victims of these crimes, that are perpetrated by repeat offenders, saying the concern should be on them and not on the accused.
13

But advocates of changing bail systems say there are disparities in bond amounts, compared to income, and charges for people of color, and something needs to be done to make the system more just.
14

They do point to cities like Houston Texas saying there's been success for bail reform for misdemeanor fences in that city.
15

But tom I got to tell you there's still so much debate on this issue in Houston even with that success. - It just feels like it's everything everyone is talking about in New York city, all right Steven Romo, first, steven, thank you.

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